BrokenBrake

Ayavryk:
А самое поганое будет, если одновременно будут существовать xHTML2 и HTML5 - вот тогда будет полная жопа образца 90х годов. Когда у NN были свои теги, а y IE свои а у W3C - свои.

Ayavryk:
ЗЫ Оверквотинг - дурная манера.

Ayavryk:
Ну да за 11 лет Опера смогла догнать IE5.0 FCKEditor Кажется начало работать только в 9.5+ А в 9.27 он точно не работает.

Ayavryk:
HTML5 - шаг вперед и две назад.

Ayavryk:
но в HTML5 формы как были так и останутся узким местом...
Интересно, каким образом HTML5 сделает ненужным Ajax и что он может предложить для валидации по сравнению с xForms?

w3c:
A new autofocus attribute can be specified on the input (except when the type attribute is hidden), select, textarea and button elements. It provides a declarative way to focus a form control during page load. Using this feature should enhance the user experience as the user can turn it off if he does not like it, for instance.

A new placeholder attribute can be specified on the input and textarea elements.

The new form attribute for input, output, select, textarea, button and fieldset elements allows for controls to be associated with a form. I.e. these elements can now be placed anywhere on a page, not just as descendants of the form element.

The new required attribute applies to input (except when the type attribute is hidden, image or some button type such as submit) and textarea. It indicates that the user has to fill in a value in order to submit the form.

The input element has several new attributes to specify constraints: autocomplete, min, max, multiple, pattern and step. As mentioned before it also has a new list attribute which can be used together with the datalist and select element.

The form element has a novalidate attribute that can be used to disable form validation submission (i.e. the form can always be submitted).

The input and button elements have formaction, formenctype, formmethod, formnovalidate, and formtarget as new attributes. If present, they override the action, enctype, method, novalidate, and target attributes on the form element.
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Web Forms 2.0, previously a standalone specification, has been fully integrated into HTML 5 since last publication. The following changes were made to the forms chapter:
Support for XML submission has been removed.
Support for form filling has been removed.
Support for filling of the select and datalist elements through the data attribute has been removed.
Support for associating a field with multiple forms has been removed. A field can still be associated with a form it is not nested in through the form attribute.
The dispatchFormInput() and dispatchFormChange() methods have been removed.
Repetition templates have been removed.
The inputmode attribute has been removed.
The input element in the File Upload state no longer supports the min and max attributes.
The allow attribute on input elements in the File Upload state is no longer authoritative.
The pattern and accept attributes for textarea have been removed.
RFC 3106 is no longer explicitly supported.
The submit() method now just submits, it no longer ensures the form controls are valid.
The input element in the Range state now defaults to the middle, rather than the minimum value.
The size attribute on the input element is now conforming (rather than deprecated).
object elements now partake in form submission.
The type attribute of the input element gained the values color and search.
The input element gained a multiple attribute which allows for either multiple e-mails or multiple files to be uploaded depending on the value of the type attribute.
The input, button and form elements now have a novalidate attribute to indicate that the form fields should not be required to have valid values upon submission.
When the label element contains an input it may still have a for attribute as long as it points to the input element it contains.
The input element now has an indeterminate DOM attribute.
The input element gained a placeholder attribute.

Ayavryk:
И это дало существенный вклад в развитие WEB. А если бы все делалось с оглядкой на долбанный W3C, то до сих пор тексты в CMS пришлось бы вводить с HTML разметкой, как в Safari, Chrome и Опере, которые либо глючат, либо не поддерживают полноценный режим design mode

Николай В.:
Кстати, BrokenBrake, вот вам еще ссылка в пост:
HTML 5 Cheat Sheet (PDF) (можно распечатать и приколоть над монитором)

SEOxaker:
Можно попробовать напечатать обьявлений с это скидкой и нанять кого-нибудь их раздавать в центре города. Хочу попробовать так, но не уверен в конверте.